Getting Gender changed from Male to Female on documents without undergoing SRS .

Namankalia2001 · 2022-04-12T13:30:29+00:00

I am 21 years old extremely feminine gay guy.I recently started microdosing estrogen in order to look androgynous.I donot want to undergo SRS as i havenot ex...

s18009

Namankalia2001 Correct, both per the new act's rules & via the older gazette procedure - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNcGXBkfNQ which apparently also is still usable

Namankalia2001

s18009 But ,according to 2020rules,the revised certificate would only be issued if i undergo Sex reassignment surgery .

s18009

Namankalia2001 No. Please take a few moments to read through the above messages & the linked resources

Namankalia2001

s18009 Mam how did you paste the link .Is there any app version?

Namankalia2001

s18009
Please read this article thoroughly
Here it is mentioned that for a revised certificate SRS is mandatory .

s18009

Namankalia2001 Those are clearly the draft rules, as it mentions in the title itself - please rely instead on the notified rules linked on the official portal http://transgender.dosje.gov.in/ & gazette notification

how did you paste the link .Is there any app version?

Markdown is supported here & the desktop version of the forum comes with a GUI editor

Namankalia2001

s18009
"medical intervention” includes any gender affirming medical intervention undertaken by an
individual to facilitate the transition to their self-identified gender, including but not limited to
counselling, hormonal therapy, and surgical intervention, if any.
Can you please explain me this line?

orange

[deleted] Why would I throw you out of here?? It's healthy to have discussions and it's ok to disagree.
I am no one to tell who's is right or wrong. All I'm suggesting is to be supportive to each other.

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orange haven't I been supportive ever??? think before you say! .....with great powers, come great responsibilities

s18009

Namankalia2001 Is there a specific part that's unclear? As it says, any gender affirming medical intervention including but not limited to counselling, hormonal therapy, and surgical intervention are all treated as valid medical interventions under the rules, and can be used to apply for a binary male/female gender marker

Namankalia2001

s18009 Does this mean any type of medical intervention including counselling ,etc is sufficient to change legal gender marker?

s18009

Namankalia2001 That's what it says there. Also you DO NOT need any sort of medical intervention done for the "transgender" gender marker

Namankalia2001

s18009 Okay thanks a lot.

s18009

[unknown] Are they interpreting it as an "AND" clause instead of the "OR" one as they're supposed to? Perhaps someone more familiar with legalese can confirm that the phrase "including but not limited to" is always used to denote an "OR" clause.

Namankalia2001

s18009 What do you exactly want to say ??Please explain.

Namankalia2001

[unknown] You should fight a case in court .

Twixie

[deleted] It could be that they haven't realised their dysphoria. Some trans people don't realise they were dysphoric until they actually transition and feel euphoria (yes, that actually happens sometimes as far as I have heard in international trans communities) and besides Naman could be non-binary as orange suggested. I just do not understand why Naman wants to change their gender on certificates to female when they otherwise call themselves guy or enby but it's for them to decide.

Transgender comprises of transmen, transwomen and intersex

Some intersex people might not identify as transgender, they might identify as their assigned gender at birth and similarly some non-binary people choose to identify as transgender, but not transwomen/man. They prefer trans femme/masc or even MtX, FtX. Transgender is a umbrella term for all of them. Transgenders definition is "people having a gender identity that differs from the sex that they were assigned at birth"

In fact I myself spent a lot of time identifying as non-binary before I came to terms with being a trans women and I still sometimes prefer the term trans femme.

Either way, transgenderindia is a safe space for everyone who is genderqueer. I mean, we even see a lot of crossdressers as well.

I know you have helped a lot of people on this forum and I just do not think you should quit over this.

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Twixie
1) I never helped anyone, to become "someone" here...pls keep that in mind...I do more in real life than you see here
2) There is more jealousy in this world than care (we all know that)....abd about 75% of the world's jealousy can be seen here alone on this portal
3) People take no moment to come forward and express displeasure here (because they know it's online and virtual, nobody can do shit about them)...although, sadly, they cant even fight with their own resentments and defeat them in real life...fucking losers ....but when its the time to actually stand by someone, specially the one who has helped.....every one hides in their own fucking ass (i am not sorry for my foul language, truth is a bitter pill to swallow I know)
4) Look at your own comment, you are not entirely here to tell me "please don't go"....but to tell every one "hi guy, I don't know pixellet but I know a lot than anyone else here....hi pixellet, i think you should stay...."....you deliberate piece of shit.....I won't be surprised to see that you yourself actually don't want to see me here..."being a professional and to act like it, are two different things".... ass hole, this isn't a professional forum to display your resume, it's a place called family...and a family is a place where you life the way you want!!! but some people here....often try to come and teach me professionalism....
5) Girls over here, just in 6 months of their HRT, start showing so much of attitude and become so much ungrateful over the time that they even start ignoring my messages.

You know something? you fucking younger generation lack the ability to handle stress your own self....but you guys won't control your attitude....

and this is the best place for you idiots to come and vent your personal frustrations on soft targets...

We don't need a portal....all we need is unity....but sadly I have just seen dog shit people every where. here...with their poo in their own mouth ..and them spitting it on each other

I HATE : when you idiots...in your fucking real life....are acting like a 2 yr old kid!! but try to ack like a multibillianiare most sophisticated jerks here

this is not a place to become famous...its a temple.....you fools....just waiting for pathetic fake scoundrels to just read and have no courage to like or dislike this comment here....and then...you guys will never see me again here...all my communications here are done....those who needed help have my number now....

@[deleted] just one thing for you....pls go FUS!

Twixie

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Firstly, I totally treated Naman as a third person from the start of my comment, I was just having a convo with you and I freaking agreed with you about Naman's situation.

I don't know you, I don't know how much you help others outside of this forum, but I see you here when I come online once in a blue moon. I'm just glad you do what you do, I didn't even think in the terms of whether I would like it if you are here or not.

Ok, I'm not a professional. I don't know shit about trans people, everything that I wrote in my previous comment is what I read in bs comments like this one on some other shit social media platform but would it be so bad to believe them and share them? All trans people have come out of the cis box and then you want to keep them into another box. Trans = binary, intersex, nothing else. Fucking hell I'm sick of these shitty boxes without any intersections.

FAMILY? You treat family like this? Tell them where they belong and if others don't agree with you you threaten them with leaving? wow.

Have you considered they might actually be pre occupied with something else or don't want to chat for literally any other reason than just ignoring you? I mean, you said we can't handle our stress very well right after that.

I love it that at the start of your message you ask me to keep in mind that you do more in real life than on hear but by the end you judge how we act in real life vs how we try to act online. I mean I get it, I tend to be grammatically nazi and act formal but it's just because I don't know how to be informal over text, I use formal language even when I'm freaking sexting.

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@orange I think now you should kick me off? lol.....take care...

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