Gender marker change possible without Surgery ?

Vaishali_22

I am going to start HRT soon. But, I won't go for surgery anytime soon. As I don't have enough funds. But, I want FEMALE marker .

Can I apply under section 7 , just with GD letter & HRT initiation letter ?

Some are saying that Surgery is required now.
I can only apply under Section 6 !🙁 Is it true ?
Pls someone tell..

Are rules changed?? Is surgery mandatory now..!!? Pls anyone reply if you're aware of any recent act/Rules related to trans.

Realneilbruce

Vaishali_22
Yes you can apply with the GD letter alone but remember to show the rule 6 of the tg rules

TokumeiM

Vaishali_22 From what I know, for the revised TG certificate you can get it without surgery (only "medical intervention" is required).
But if you want to get your passport updated, it seems they ask for surgery. But til then you can get your other documents updated.

Vaishali_22

Realneilbruce Okay. So, Which process is better ?
I apply now under Section 6
Get Transgender
Then,
Re apply for Section 7 after i complete 5-6 months on HRT

Directly apply under Section 7

P.s - I have GD letter, Starting HRT very soon.

Vaishali_22

TokumeiM Yes. Exactly !

But, I'm very nervous whether my district's DM will ask for surgery..
As 2019 Act says Surgery is mandatory !

Idk I'm overthinking!
I got GD letter, Starting HRT soon

For me, Getting FEMALE marker is very important, As I'll be giving competitive exams from next year & during form filling, I want FEMALE marker.
If I get Transgender now, Update my all documents. ( 10th/12th )
Then, Again changing it to female will be very hectic. ( As I'll wait for surgery around 2-3 years )

So, I want Female marker now. So that things become bit easier.
Hopefully, My DM turns out to be trans friendly. 😢

Realneilbruce

TokumeiM

TokumeiM But if you want to get your passport updated, it seems they ask for surgery. But til then you can get your other documents updated

Not really as The TG ID allows for change in passport without surgery but a GD/GID and HRT letter has to be produced and they have to confirm its authencity

as per passport rules you have to have surgery but the tg act and rules are special legislation which can override the other general legislation

Realneilbruce

Vaishali_22
you can directly apply for sec 7 or you can apply sec 6 now and as soon as you receive that apply for sec 7

for sec 7 only medical intervention is required aka GD/GID or HRT letter is sufficient

TokumeiM

Vaishali_22 I think in my opinion, get a letter from your endocrinologist saying you're undergoing HRT with them. This is because while GD certificate is technically considered medical intervention, they generally want a confirmation that you are undergoing actual physical treatment.

Realneilbruce

Vaishali_22

Vaishali_22 As 2019 Act says Surgery is mandatory !

Yes, act does mention surgery and cause it will be violation of the tg persons rights and they cant ammend it as soon as they published they corrected that mistake in the TG rules of 2020

as soon as you get tg 6 you dont need to update anything unless you know you are not going to be chaning that marker

TokumeiM

Realneilbruce This is what I've heard, but in practice does it work like that? Everyone I've asked has said that despite having a TG ID the passport officials have demanded proof of surgery.

Realneilbruce

TokumeiM
I applied for a passport they tried that but I told them that was not true and their act rules and guidleines are old and are yet to be updated until then they can use tg act as a special legislation and provide me one and they did

Vaishali_22

Realneilbruce Okay Thankyou dear 🥹

One last thing...
Acc to you, Which way will be little better ?

Section 6 Trans ID card abhi lelu, Then re apply under Section 7
OR
Direct Section 7 apply after 2-3 months on HRT

I know both are legal ways.
Just a suggestion ? 🙌

Vaishali_22

Realneilbruce Okay Thankyou dear 🥹

TokumeiM

Realneilbruce Ok thanks for the info! Hopefully when I eventually apply they will listen to me.

Realneilbruce

Vaishali_22
you can apply now for section 7 without waiting just with your gd id